Saturday, November 29, 2008

Review: Fedora 10

WHEN Fedora 10 was released a couple of days ago, some highly respected websites posted reviews which spoke in glowing terms about its improvements.

The praise was well deserved - and I will come to my own assessment of Fedora 10 in due course - but first I have a bone to pick.

The fact that the Fedora Project is getting such widespread positive publicity is welcome and just, but I am concerned that new users might be drawn to Fedora without knowing about its aversion to patent-encumbered software and its strict adherence to free/open source software licensing rules.

I won't repeat this debate here but Fedora's stance is hinted at here ...and the bit that ought to leap out at you is this:

"We try to always do the right thing, and provide only free and open source software."
Because what that means in practice, dear Linux newcomer, is that when you first install Fedora 10, it WILL NOT PLAY your MP3s, DVDs, .AVI videos, YouTube or any other Flash-based content, movie trailers on the Apple website or live radio streams from, for example, the BBC.

This is because the codecs or plugins required to do all those routine things are not and never will be included in Fedora by default, because they do not meet the project's free/open source criteria.

The review of F10 in my favourite magazine, Linux Format - which was summarised and posted on Tech Radar - merely stated:
"Moving well away from the corporate sphere and into the living room, a fair amount of work has gone into LIRC, to improve connectivity with remote controls to further enhance Fedora's media centre credentials."
LXF then went on to discuss improvements to F10's sound server, which I will return to, but nowhere was the codecs issue mentioned.

The closest that The Register's review of F10 came to discussing the multimedia codecs issue was this:
"As with its predecessor, Fedora 10 features PackageKit with its very nice on-demand software for default apps. PackageKit makes Linux a bit more user-friendly. For example, if you download a PDF file, but don't have a PDF viewer installed, PackageKit notices that and offers to install the software you need. It makes for a much smoother Linux experience.

Of course PackageKit really only works for files that have a Linux-compatible app available - download a .flv movie and PackageKit will ignore it.

Speaking of proprietary things like Flash files, Fedora 10 includes the latest stable version of X.Org, which means no more support for proprietary nVidia drivers. The free driver will work for those systems, but you'll lose 3-D support, which is a shame."
These reviews are doing potential Fedora users a disservice by not making the multimedia codec issue clearer - something I hope to redress later in this review.

Anyway, I am getting a bit dizzy sitting on my high horse, so it's back down to earth now for a detailed look at what makes F10 such a top class Linux distribution - even despite those multimedia limitations.

I installed F10 from the live CD (available here) on a Pentium 4, 3.4GHz desktop machine with 1024MB of RAM, twin DVD/DVDRW drives, an NVidia Geforce 9500GTS graphics card with 512MB of dedicated RAM and wired ethernet.

F10 now 'lives' on a secondary partition on a drive which also houses Linux Mint 5, and I took the risk of installing F10's GRUB bootloader over the existing LM GRUB - the Mint partition was not detected but I was able to add it to the Fedora boot menu during the installation process.Fedora's tried-and-tested Anaconda graphical installer is a joy to use and certainly doesn't present even the freshest Linux newbie with anything too taxing - if anything, it's easier than ever.

It is also quick - the whole install took around 10-12 minutes. You need to be quick at the reboot if you want to 'catch' GRUB before it loads Fedora by default: Press a key before the brief timeout and you're presented with the full GRUB boot menu from which to make your choice.

Of course, this is only an issue if, like me, you are dual-booting F10 with another Linux distribution or Microsoft Windows - if it occupies all of your HDD, then let it do its thing.

One of the under-the-hood improvements in F10 is the bootup speed, which has been shortened by the introduction of Plymouth - the replacement for the ageing and increasingly fragile RHGB (Red Hat graphical boot).

Along with this improvement in speed, the general look and feel of the boot process feels a lot smoother thanks to work done to minimise the handovers between the BIOS, GRUB, RHGB and GDM login screen.

The default look of F10's GNOME desktop environment is very nice indeed - I could certainly live with that new desktop wallpaper a lot longer than, say, Ubuntu's Indistinguishable Ibex, and the new Echo theme is both minimalist and classy.Fedora was (in Fedora 8) one of the first distributions to use PulseAudio, the sound server which was supposed to bring new features like support for controlling the volume of individual audio streams, moving audio streams between devices and outputting audio streams simultaneously to multiple devices.

What it actually brought, in those early incarnations, was a whole lot of glitches.

But in F10, things have improved dramatically. The new PA is a rewrite that implements timer-based audio scheduling. This significantly reduces the potential for dropped audio. Don't be fooled into thinking that your new F10 install has no sound on your first boot - system sounds are disabled by default and it's a small matter of going in to System>Preferences>Hardware>Sound to enable them!

Fedora 10 also includes a new version of the excellent Network Manager utility, which is used to configure Fedora's connectivity settings (my wired ethernet was automagically configured on my first boot).

The new version has built-in support for connection sharing and also handles the increasingly popular mobile broadband dongles.

Fedora's RPM package management system has had a major overhaul for F10: RPM 4.6 has many new features and a cleaner code base. The system updater tool works very well - on my first boot it reported 42 updates were pending, 36 of which were bugfixes and six enhancements.The aforementioned PackageKit is a generic package management frontend with a user-friendly graphical interface which is designed to make the finding and installation of patent-encumbered codecs and plugins more straightforward.

I ran my usual list of multimedia tests through F10:

CD - played in the Rhythmbox jukebox application
MP3 - failed to play, and Package Kit failed to direct me to a suitable MP3 decoder plugin
.AVI video - failed to play, same Package Kit failure
DVD - failed to play, same Package Kit failure
Apple movie trailers in Firefox 3.0 - failed to play
BBC radio in Firefox - failed to play
YouTube videos - failed to play.

That's six out of seven multimedia formats which failed to play and, in each case, Package Kit failed to detect the necessary software required for me to download and install - I was simply referred on each occasion to the Fedora Project's multimedia wiki page.

Now, I know all about Fedora and multimedia issues, having struggled with them in previous releases, so I know how to 'fix' this - but how is a new Fedora user to know what to do when his shiny new F10 installation won't play anything?

Well, seeing as F10 appears not to want to tell you, I will.

To get any Flash content to play, you need to download the Flash Player (the latest version is 10.0.12.36-release.i386.rpm) from the Adobe website and then install it with the package manager .

For pretty much every other multimedia format, you need the help of the Fedora community and, specifically, the RPM Fusion repository.

To enable RPM Fusion in your software sources, and thereby make adding multimedia codecs more straightforward, enter the following command, as root, in a terminal.
su -c 'rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm'
Now, whenever you try to play a multimedia file for which Fedora 10 does not have the codecs - like an MP3, an .AVI video file or a DVD - PackageKit will alert you, give you the option to search and then download and install the required codec or plugin from the RPM Fusion repository.

It's a faff, but it works.

Fedora, by tradition, does not load its releases with lots of default packages but what you do get tends to be of a high quality.

The live CD version of F10 includes Firefox 3.0.4, Abiword 2.6.4, GIMP 2.6, Pidgin, Transmission, Rhythmbox, Evolution, Totem, gThumb, Cheese, Sound Juicer and Nautilus. Obviously, many, many more packages are available from Fedora's massive repository and downloading and installing them, along with any necessary dependencies, is a breeze using the graphical package manager.

I am generally very impressed with F10: It is certainly a faster distribution than ever before and I appreciate the new, improved PulseAudio. More than anything, however, F10 is a distribution that just feels right, a feeling that comes from the sum of many different parts which have been well chosen, well-implemented and improved where necessary.

If you are an experienced Linux user, F10 is well worth spending some time with just for its sheer rounded-out quality; new users, once they get their heads around that multimedia issue, might also find a lot to admire in this excellent release.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've posted this in other reviews, and I know it looks like I'm a fanboy of it or something, but here is a nice utility. I am not affiliated with or know them in any way, just pointing out something.

http://dnmouse.org/autoten.html

Nice review by the way, I've been using 64bit a few weeks with not a single problem.

CJ said...

Unless I missed something, and I know I didn't, Fedora 10 was just released a few days ago.

David Wing said...

Awesome review. I agree with you 100% about problems newbies are going to have with the various codecs not being there. This is why I recommend a distribution like Linux Mint for new users. All the proprietary evilness working right out of the box!

I do appreciate Fedora's stance on Free Software though. They also have, INMO, the best looking distribution (theme, wallpaper, etc.) out there. FD6, with it's double helix artwork, was a real work of art.

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much for the full disclosure about multimedia! A reader has to wonder why many other reviewers don't "tell it like it is".

Tom

Red Devil said...

@ CJ - you're quite right about the release date, I'll amend my article. I was confusing it because one of the reviews I mentioned was of a release candidate and it was posted before the release of the final version. Cheers!

Anonymous said...

OpenChrome, Via drivers that fail on install have bugged me since Fedora 8. Newbies with such graphics setups will fail at the first hurdle unless text mode is used. The boot process however seems flakey at the start (DVD, Live CDs tested) and it takes a good few hours to sort out such issues rather than the ten minute smooth install one expects these days. OK F10 runs fine and quickly when all theses issues are sorted. Rpmfusion is yet a second complication. Surely the install can be raised from alpha software over three or more releases. I will continue to struggle with these issues only because of the best overall final product.

Anonymous said...

hi,
i installed fedora 10 to toshiba satellite (mobility radeon hd2600)

but i can't install ati driver (black screen) and also kde composite failed..

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the review... a really good one, and thanks for the info of how to make this work. I had been reading others reviews to see if somebody else can supply the info about the multimedia issue and nono of they did. Thanks a lot! I'm going to give F10 a chance to see how it works.

Anoop said...

I tried to get the cd install on my desktop with D845GLAD board and a P-4 1.8g, with 512mb DDR RAM, But the graphical installer wont come up , It will only freeze the system, Then tried it with text mode again installer aborted while preparing to install, Finally I got it by pluging in a pci graphic card , A radeon 7500 32mb, Finally I got to my favourite KDE Desktop , But the system-config-network wont work , I changed the menu style and the menu will go to right hand extreme when I log back in , Well I thanked god for I did'nt format my working Fedora8 and tried this on another 20gb disk, Got that disk reformatted and back to Fedora8 now , After RH-7.0 this is the first time I had to create my modem connection by hand editing text, Sincerely I will say Fedora 9 & 10 are not for KDE users, I'am no novice to Linux have been using this from RH 6.3 for work, Well I'am now considering Mandriva seriously, There is nothing much left in Fedora Project if you use KDE, Will wait for fedora 11 now LOL or change to Mandriva or Something else with a properly working KDE and Graphic cards ,But from what I saw I think KDE may improve by next release, Also this loooks like they only aim at laptops for now also their KDE team needs to do some serious work

ben2tak said...

I tried Fedora 10 from the liveCD - interested if I should move from Ubuntu 8.10 gnome to F10 gnome - and it did seem a little more polished in some areas - fade effects changing wallpapers etc.

Unfortunately, enabling graphics gave me a white screen effect (I could see the 'scale windows' effect, but white squares...). With Ubuntu some 5 months ago I managed to solve these problems very quickly and easily - not so with F10. Sorry folks.

Any further comments as the comparisons with Ubuntu and F10? I'm starting to get itchy feet and feeling that experience of some other distro's will do me good - using some Puppy on USB now - wow, that's fast!

Red Devil said...

@ Anoop
I guess you're learning the hard way that usually, if you're a KDE fan, it's best to use a distro which has KDE as its primary desktop environment (and vice versa for GNOME).

My experience of using DEs which are not native to a distro (like, for example, KDE in Fedora) has rarely been totally enjoyable - I suppose that's why there have been major community-driven spinoffs like Kubuntu and Xubuntu.

Mandriva is certainly worth a look just now, particularly as the latest release comes with the improved version of KDE 4.

I took some time to warm to KDE 4, especially that side-scrolling menu, but now I'm quite happy with it.

Anyway, good luck and thanks for commenting.

@ ben2tak

I presume you mean 'enabling desktop effects' rather than graphics? If so, you probably need the 3D driver for your card for things to go smoothly.

As to whether you should change from Ubuntu 8.10 to F10 or any other distro.. that's something I can't really answer for you.

If Ubuntu 8.10 does what you want it to, then stick with it. It's certainly easier to get all the multimedia codecs installed in Ubuntu than it is with F10 (from a terminal do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras).

You might like to try a new Ubuntu spin-off I've just reviewed, #!CrunchBang Linux 8.10.01. Read the review on my blog - it's a terrific distro.

Thanks for reading and commenting

Gireesh said...

@Reddevil:
The fedora release notes seems to have something to say about multimedia.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/Upfront_About_Multimedia.html

Red Devil said...

@ Gireesh
You're right and, of course, they always have been "up-front" about their approach to multimedia.

My point related to those reviewers of F10 who neglected to mention the multimedia issue, not Fedora themselves.

ben2tak said...

I would suggest you try out the wonderful world of Debian - then you can see both worlds. You really should experience the difference of APT before you dismiss it - for me, the YUM in F10 was a real showstopper. The desktop did appear a little smoother - but I just got the feeling it's so much easier to go home to my Debian gnome where I can so easily just make it happen - and it works so much more easily.

Red Devil said...

@ ben2tak

I wasn't aware I had "dismissed" Debian or apt?!

In fact, I have used Debian off and on for quite a few years and really like it, and apt-get/aptitude is my favourite commandline way of maintaining my system!

If you look back at my reply to your earlier comment, I said: "It's certainly easier to get all the multimedia codecs installed in Ubuntu than it is with F10 (from a terminal do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)."

.. which kind of suggests that I quite like the old apt-get combo.

Cheers ;-)

CJ said...

I forgot to mention previously but this is a wonderful review. I used Fedora 8 and was amazed by it but moved on to Ubuntu for it's ease of use.

inDrajeet said...

Hi,

I have installed fedora 10 some days ago. My Atheros based wlan card (Atheros5006x) was not working with all other distributions: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, SUSE 11.0 and MEPIS. But It is working with fedora 10. Package kit is quite inefficient.. and there was no Konqueror(the new Konqueror is just a ghost with all it's power stripped off), which I used to do all kind of work-- like reading pdf, viewing pictures and opening a terminal. synaptic is not working...!!! yum functions well... The cheese webcam booth was working very well.. but after a couple of reboot and installing some video codecs, cheese has stopped working...!!! It seems to be in highly inefficient and buggy beta stage..!!! Still I am using it, since no other distro could detect my Atheros 5006x wlan card. All people have praised Ubuntu and Mint, but it is a pity that these distros did not detect my wlan card, even after installing mad-wifi, ... modprobe ath_pci... a long series of commands... !!!

ben2tak said...

I have Puppy on my usb, and a bootable CD - and for all the arguments about the higher functions, and relative bugs of all the main distro's, I have to say that in this respect, Fedora, SuSe, Ubuntu and all the others should be bowing down before Puppy.

They should consider taking puppy and building upon it - because Puppy seems to detect everything that Windows ever could, and then some... Did puppy ever fail for you? I tried a few 5, 6 year old machines mashed together and they all worked a treat!

Anonymous said...

...yeah really. The tiny Puppy distro boots up and runs flawlessly on every PC and laptop I run it on. Fedora 10 doesn't run on the first PC I try. Illogical and pathetic!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the multimedia info. As someone new to Linux, I had installed Ubuntu 8.10 the other day and found it kept on freezing for no apparent reason. Looking at the forums I found lots of other people having a similar problem, so I gave up and installed Fedora 10 only to find I couldn't play any media or flash stuff. While looking for some info on how to do it I came across a lengthy discussion about a DNS related bug in Fedora 10, which was getting pretty heated and people were going back to V9.

My next plan was to install V10 on a home server and run Virtualbox, but on the vbox website they don't have a link for V10 yet!
It certainly hasn't been a good introduction to Linux so far.

Thanks to your review at least I have been able to solve one problem quite easily. Looks like I'll have to bookmark your blog.

JK

Anonymous said...

@ben2tak
Yes Puppy has failed for me, it couldn't detect my mouse on an old P.C, I now have freeBSD running on the same machine with the same mouse just fine.

This is a great review totally frank and honest and it's good to see someone finally showing how to install codecs on F10 albeit having to come from a review of all places, that's pretty bad on Fedora's part IMO regardless on their stance on closed source. It's so obscure to find the information, I've used fc7 and it was way easier to find the info with livna. So thanks very much for including that in your review.

I'm using kde4 I have to say it doesn't seem as complete as Kubuntu. And I'm bit skeptical about Pulse Audio and packagekit, so to conclude I don't think it's as great as other more popular kde distros however it's hardware detection it's better than fc7, only Mandriva & Ubuntu have detected everything properly so that's
a big plus for f10 to do so as well.

Steven Lawson said...

Let me try to explain my reasons for highlighting Fedora's multimedia 'failings' in this review.

Firstly, I respect and understand the approach taken by the Fedora project and others - that their distribution should not be tainted by patent-encumbered software or codecs.

This is both a philosophical and a legal issue; philosophical in the sense that all software should be free of patents and licences, and legal in the sense that patents and licence laws differ from country to country and it is therefore simpler to not include such software.

However, I wonder how we are to spread the influence and use of FOSS/Linux if those coming to these distributions find they do not do what proprietary operating systems do as a matter of course?

When was the last time you saw a Mac or Windows user moaning about not being able to play an MP3 on their system?

The people I know who use PCs/Macs do not have the slightest interest in configuring their systems to play a DVD or their MP3s - they expect to switch them on, and get going straight away.

Let me try an analogy: You buy a shiny, new BMW, get in for your first drive and realise there's nowhere to plug in your iPod.

You ring the dealer and he says: "Sorry, we can't provide iPod connections for our cars in the USA - your copyright laws are different to ours in Germany and we just can't risk being complicit in copyright infringement."

It's an extreme example, I know, but it kind of makes the point.

Principles and philosophies are nice but they're hard to explain to people who don't care about them.

To be fair, the Fedora project does explain its stance on these issues - but a lot of folk just don't care.

What I take issue with is those who champion Fedora - like the reviews I mentioned in my article - without making it clear to potential new users what they are letting themselves in for.

That's sloppy and bordering on dishonest.

Brian said...

My two cents...

First, if you want to play codecs using Fedora go to RPM Fusion. That's it! End of story.

This is in response to "When was the last time you saw a Mac or Windows user moaning about not being able to play an MP3 on their system?"

A fresh install of Windows XP Home and Professional do not contain out of the box software support to play DVD's.

Same for some versions of Vista. With those OSes you'll have to pay to play :)

- If you're running Windows XP, you can enhance your DVD playback experience by purchasing a DVD decoder pack. In other words, XP doesn't play DVD's unless you add third party software. And I'm not talking about using Nero DVD Decoder or Nero Video Decoder which both use NeVideo.ax.

You'll need either Sonic CinePlayer DVD Decoder Pack, Cyberlink PowerDVD SE for Windows XP, DVD XPack for Windows XP, NVIDIA DVD Decoder.

- If you're running Windows Vista you will need to purchase third party software unless you're lucky enough to have purchased and are running Windows Vista Home Premium or Windows Vista Ultimate; both of which have DVD capabilities included as part of the operating system.

If you're running Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Business, or Windows Vista Enterprise, you can enhance your DVD playback experience by purchasing a DVD decoder pack or by upgrading to a more powerful edition of Windows Vista.

In some cases people purchase PCs that contain third party software which allows viewing of DVD's. Put it's not in the OS except in the case of Vista Home Premium or Windows Vista Ultimate.

RETTESH said...

its very nice but i am still unable in playing video, it solve the problem of mp3 songs..........
give me suggestions

Anonymous said...

@Brian
Hmmm that's funny I can play DVD's Xp and I don't recall having to purchase anything, yes I did have to download codecs, however mp3,wma,wmv,mpeg all played out of the box & flash was a breeze to install.

Brian said...

Hi RETTESH,

I can understand that being unable to play video and music can lead to frustration. I'd recommend looking at the following two sites for assistance.

Fedora's forum is at:
http://www.fedoraforum.org/

Check out the unofficial Fedora FAQ and click on the version you're using:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/

Read about other distributions
http://distrowatch.com/

Faisal said...

It is just greatly working on Acer aspire one

with little tweaking it boots in 17 seconds ( just like linpus ) i am so in love in it although i just spend 7 monthes in linux it is the Future leader

Mikey said...

love your blog good stuff

Anonymous said...

liveCD was nightmare for me, several things did not work. reinstalling from DVD most of stuff is there and functions... well I have to agree that some things in Fedora 10 has not got better, I used Fedora 7 on workstations and servers, still running very well. Tried occasionally Fedora 9 but version 10 is not too special.

stragely wireless is not woring on Fedora 10, it is not deecting the card and afterwards connects, starts to excange info and then freezes :-(

cyz

katie said...

i have installed f10 on a dell laptop with vista i searched the web and found out how to install all the codecs, my f10 now works the way it should do with mp3 flash video dvd just everything works ok, and i changed from ubuntu 8.10.
but packagekit does not search as good as synaptic in ubuntu.

Anonymous said...

I downloaded and installed fedora security and program updates and boom it wouldn't boot once I rebooted. Selinux is just a waste. I got hacked, didn't take the hacker to hack the system. For being a new user I don't rely Fedora as my main OS. I use Desktopbsd. Why because it just works.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for helping me find the media decoders and plugins. That was driving me crazy. Now if I can just get NetworkManager to work... ;-)

JimS said...

I am a Fed newbie and I was all geared up to switch to Fedora. After install I ran into all the problems you mention here. I even tried installing Open Office. It appeared to install but where are the icons? How do I run stuff? I've spent 2 days screwing with it. I have to go back to windows as I don't have time to research and fix all this stuff.

Anonymous said...

hello, i have hp pavillion dv5 1030- graphic card ATI radeon bla bla bla. Anywayz i tryed installing it by typing as all sites are saying, yum install kmod-fglrx. then results are:
[root@amer amer]# yum install kmod-fglrx
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
No package kmod-fglrx available.
Nothing to do
[root@amer amer]# fglrx-config-display enablebash: fglrx-config-display: command not found
[root@amer amer]#

please hlp me . thx

Steven Lawson said...

@ anonymous

I'm sorry, you need to post your question on the Fedora forum to get an answer.

While I try to help people where I can, this blog is not a user forum. If I start answering specific hardware-related questions for everyone who's having problems, I'll never have the time to write anything else.

The forum is here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/?

And just a word of advice: When you post, try to be as detailed and specific as possible. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Great review.

I've been a fan of the Fedora distro. for sometime now but having said that I wish I'd known about the media limitations in 10, I'd not have bothered downloading and installing it.

It's been some years since I last used Fedora as a workstation/desktop (I use it as a server all the time). I really don't remember not being able to playback mp3's...strange.

Anonymous said...

that rpm fusion repository was golden. This has solved almost any problem i've had. Next fedora just needs to make wireless easier and i'll be sold.

Matt said...

Mr Lawson,
You've no idea how useful this review was. I tend to take reviews as so much BS since it's a subjective thing.
I'd been using Linux on and off since RH 4 or 5 (can't remember which now) and have always enjoyed it. When my computer crashed a couple of years ago, I decided to go back to it. Fedora 9 was excellent (yum was a deciding factor in the switch from Slackware) and I eagerly awaited the release of 10 only to be disappointed by the "sound issues" I was having. There were some screen resolution problems too, and I finally just got fed up with the mess and went back to 9. I re-upgraded back to 10 earlier this week for some snazzy new dev tools that 9 was giving me hassles on; but coming back to haunt me were the "sound issues". I'll be giving these tips some time this weekend; thank you for this post.

Anonymous said...

of course fedora requires some configuration, every operating system does.
even in windows firefox doesn't come preloaded with flash and media player can't handle xvid without a codec install.

Fedorafaq.org resolves all this in minutes

Anonymous said...

Beautiful beautiful beautiful!

I'm running fedora 10 for a week now and I still didn't feel the need to boot the windows i have on the other hard drive

not ONE single crash and feeze so far! I am speechless
last time I tryed fodora was the 6

after fixing the multimedia thinggies I installed all and every software I could think of that I can use without the slightest glitch
acrobat, utorrent, skype, google earth, audacious, vlc, filezilla etc
everything is PERFECT

I think we arrived to the era where windows finality HAS solid competition

I think this is it for me, from now on the future is LINUX